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  Quit Quietly now more than ever

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

  - no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

  make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

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  Anna Marina

  People choose what they are interested in. I am not trying to win a court case.
  
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  Quit Quietly now more than ever

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

  - no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

  make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

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  Anna Marina

  Love to know how it affects me. I wrote to GB - I have proof my letter was received by London Bethel (signed for) and tracking for the same letter sent to USA.

  I by-passed the Service Desk by doing a password protected website for the GB with a personal request from me to correct their false teaching or show me where I was wrong, using scriptures. I said they had x3 month or else I would consider them to be in opposition to Jehovah.

  This is one of the pages of my website.
  

  http://olam30.co.uk/key/index.php

  This is the way forward I gave them.
  

  http://olam30.co.uk/key/d11_way_forward.php

  I was called to a judicial twice but I did not attend. I made it clear to the elders on a number of occasions that the action they were taking against me was wrong and should be called off immediately. They ran rough-shod over me. I knew they would but I gave them fair warning to back up their trucks.

  I also wrote about 50 individually addressed letters to members of the local congregations (those who had got to know me), and informed them what was happening to me.

  Some of them shun me now but not all.

  Since this we had to change our window cleaner. He was part of the judicial committee.
  
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  Court confirms:--Severe Criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses is Justified!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  court confirms: severe criticism of jehovah's witnesses is justified!.

  https://docdro.id/axa555i.

  petra!.

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  Anna Marina

  Hi Beth Sarim - glad someone else has noticed this.

  Lot of people overlook things like Dada, comedy and clowning.These are all in Watchtower's toolbox.

  The very first step is to slightly confuse you, make you think THEY are more intelligent/more in touch with God/better than you (that is what aristocracy means - better (aristo) power (cracy)), then get you to wait till you understand things better. Or until you have made progress.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yHJMPw8RHU

  Watchtower is a mantrap for Christians. A key part of the trap is that once they have slightly confused you on what appears a trivial issue which can be overlooked, they encourage you to ask questions.

  BUT THE QUESTIONS ARE NEVER ANSWERED. Oh yes they'll get answered tomorrow when there's some new light from the aristocracy that is the GB. But tomorrow never comes and if there is new light, it is just new gobbledigook. AND YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISAGREE WITH THAT GOBBLEDIGOOK.

  It is like a chidren't game called Simple Simon Says. Everyone has to do what Simple Simon says or you are out.

  But Christians are supposed to do what Jesus Christ says. Not Simple Simon. Or Simple anyone else.

  Watchtower not only hijacks thinking ability, they hijack your moral compass. The one you are born with, your natural sense of right and wrong and your natural sense of love.
  
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  Court confirms:--Severe Criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses is Justified!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  court confirms: severe criticism of jehovah's witnesses is justified!.

  https://docdro.id/axa555i.

  petra!.

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  Anna Marina

  Also, freedom from false arithmetic. Watchtower attacks mathematics and attempts to get you to abandon your powers of reason so you can no longer add up sums.

  Watchtower doesn't just attack the Bible it attacks the fundamental thinking ability of Mankind.

  Watchtower wants freedom from sense. They want nonsense.
  
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  Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it is a challenge next sunday for them .

  due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).

  this article makes a grand claim in par 2.

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  There's another way of reading this

  "And even though God’s servants make up only a small portion of the world’s population, they are often at the center of major world events. Why? Because Satan and his entire system have one prime objective​—conquering those who serve Jehovah and Jesus."

  God's servants - WT are liars and serve Satan. So because Satan is the god of this system of things, WT is at the centre of major world events and have one prime objective - conquering those who serve Jehovah and Jesus.
  
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  Scriptures they use to justify disfellowshipping

  by Lynnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does someone have a list of the scriptures the jw's use to justify shunning and disfellowshipping?

  i know there are only a few..

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  Anna Marina

  Scriptures are very useful for history and so helpful when not read in the way the Pharisees and Watchtower used to read them. You know, as an excuse to act contrary to Jesus Christ's teachings.

  Proper context - it helps.
  
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  Scriptures they use to justify disfellowshipping

  by Lynnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does someone have a list of the scriptures the jw's use to justify shunning and disfellowshipping?

  i know there are only a few..

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  Anna Marina

  Call me boring, call me old fashioned, but some of those standards have stood the test of time. I know we've moved beyond the temple arrangement.

  I do like that one about treating others as you would like to be treated yourself.
  
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  Scriptures they use to justify disfellowshipping

  by Lynnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does someone have a list of the scriptures the jw's use to justify shunning and disfellowshipping?

  i know there are only a few..

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  Anna Marina

  Jesus would not approve such practices. Anyone wishing to become a Christian would have to leave off such practices. But in order to remain in Christ's teachings you have to have accepted them in the first place.

  The following are the words of John.
  

  (2 John 9-11) . . .Everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. He that does remain in this teaching is the one that has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to YOU and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into YOUR homes or say a greeting to him. 11 For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. . .

  Jesus gave authority to his disciples and the book of Revelation gives details of how Jesus was not happy with any wrongdoing in the congregations.

  (Revelation 2:2-5) . . .‘I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot bear bad men, and that you put those to the test who say they are apostles, but they are not, and you found them liars. 3 You are also showing endurance, and you have borne up for my name’s sake and have not grown weary. 4 Nevertheless, I hold [this] against you, that you have left the love you had at first. 5 “‘Therefore remember from what you have fallen, and repent and do the former deeds. If you do not, I am coming to you, and I will remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.
  
  
  
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  Scriptures they use to justify disfellowshipping

  by Lynnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does someone have a list of the scriptures the jw's use to justify shunning and disfellowshipping?

  i know there are only a few..

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  Anna Marina

  Room215 - exactly - it does not belong to Watchtower to render anyone 'like a tax collector'. That right belongs to the Christians not to the anti-Christs.

  When they go on about someone being like Korah was to Moses, they are fulfilling the role of Korah not Moses.
  
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  Telehealth Doctor's Visits Provided by JW Drs. - Coming Soon?

  by JWTom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is a zoom meeting in our area this coming weekend to educate anyone with a healthcare background about "volunteering" to be part of providing health care through online zoom doctors visits.

  evidently jw doctors across the us are volunteering to do free zoom consultations that are technically real doctors visits.

  don't have many details other than i saw some of the letters from petra where people could sign up for this.. wondering if this is already happening in some areas or if anyone knows more about it?

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  Anna Marina

  I have heard of the tours also. I expect they are off the scale boring but everyone has to find them interesting. When I went on such tours for real, you gave a donation to the guide. It went into a brown sealed envelope - which looked a bit suspicious to me.

  Maybe you are supposed to pay somehow, but it must look like a donation.